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Here is my quandry: Have: Edge 705 with UK TOPO map Hopefully getting: New Edge 800 Sell: Edge 705 Unit Need to: Transfer TOPO license to new Edge 800 & remove from 705 to sell Initial response from Garmin Support: Unfortunately the mapping unlock process only allows for the mapping to be used on a specific Garmin device. This unlock information is not transferable and will only be useable in conjunction with the Garmin device for which it is intended. As a result, if you would like to use this same mapping on the Edge 800 it will be necessary to purchase a new copy of the mapping for use specifically with this device. Am I confused or is Garmin?
New Garmin maps were released last night, so I decided to try to update my 2013 RB5 (Model GTP13) using a full set of Garmin's update files. It took a couple of tries with a couple of methods, but in the end, I finally figured it out. To make it easier for everyone else (and myself later on!) I will document the complete procedure. This tutorial will be specific for a GTP13 RB5 radio using maps released on 6/12/13 (2014.10). If you have an older GTP2012 radio, some of the files may not be needed, but since I don't have a unit to test them on, I cannot confirm the correct procedure. I'm will break this up into a couple of portions to make it easier to follow. Things you will need: 1) Map files.
You can get these a number of ways. There are some GPS-related forums that post links to the files, you can try a torrent, or even usenet.
An even simpler way, which is the way that I got my files, is to pull the files off of an actual Garmin unit. As long as you use a compatible unit (I used my nuvi 3750) the files should be ok.
Note that the full set of files is over 4GB, so plan accordingly. 2) GmapTool: This application is used to gather the information about the map files. You will need this to get the PID code needed later. 3) Jetmouse's Garmin Keygen v1.5: This application is used to generate the unlock code if necessary. At this time, I'm not completely sure if it is needed for the GTP13 unit, and I don't think I will be able to tell for sure until the next map update is released. 4) FastIMG Unlocker 2.1: Just like it sounds, it unlocks the IMG files in case you get map files that are unlocked. 5) A blank, freshly formatted FAT32 USB thumbdrive.
Make sure that it is at least 8GB. These radios are picky regarding USB thumbdrives. I have four drives that are not compatible, so you may have to try a couple until it finally works. Once you find the one that works, you should probably label it and save it for nav updates! 5) An hour or two for the actual install.
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You need to make sure that the car doesn't turn off during the procedure. For the flash drive that I used, a full 4.4GB install takes around 45 minutes. I strongly suspect that the system copies all of the files to the internal flash memory in a temporary location until all the files have been copied over before it writes them to the 'real' spot, so a failed installation doesn't hose your system. USB Preparation Prior to beginning the procedure, you should take the blank drive to your car and let the system prepare the drive itself instead of doing it yourself on the computer. To do this: 1) Go the Nav interface and go to 'Settings - Map' screen, then press the button in the upper left corner that has three horizontal lines. In the menu that pops up, choose 'Install Maps'.
Additionally, if you choose the 'Info' button, it will display your current map version. 2) The system will prompt you to insert the blank thumbdrive into the USB jack in the center console. When it is inserted, the system will create a 'Garmin' folder and copy a file named 'GarminDevice.xml' onto the thumbdrive. 3) This file will make the drive behave as if it is an actual Garmin GPS unit when it is plugged into your PC. If you install GarminExpress on the PC, it will open up and display some of the GPS information and check to make sure that it is updated to the current version. I suspect that there will never be a Garmin-released update, but hey, it doesn't hurt to check.
If you double-click the GarminDevice.xml file in Windows, it will open up in a browser window and display a ton of information. I'm particularly intrested in seeing someone else's before-and-after values for the Freespace field at the bottom of the file. I would like to see if some of the extra files from earlier map versions are deleted or if they are taking up space. My unit currently has bytes free, which may point to a 16GB internal flash storage size. File Preparation There are two files that need to be unlocked.
I went through this iteration a few times last night, so I'm not exactly sure if they need to be unlocked or not. In any case, unlocking them doesn't hurt, so I suggest doing so if you don't get unlocked files to begin with. The two files are 'gmap3d.img' and 'gmapprom.img' or 'gmapsupp.img'.
You use the 'FastIMG Unlocker' application to unlock them. The application is very simple and intuitive, so I won't go into its use. Make sure that you rename 'gmapsupp.img' to 'gmapprom.img'. This has bitten me a few times, and I'm sure that it's gotten quite a few other people.
Make sure you use two 'pp' characters! After the drive has been prepared and the map files have been unlocked, copy the following files to the thumbdrive using this exact format (SPECIFIC to GTP13 2014.10 maps): (Thumbdrive letter): Garmin GarminDevice.xml gmap3d.img gmapprom.img gmaptz.img -ASR 048UHSLC.SRX 048UHSLD.ASR 048UHSLE.ASR 048UHSLF.ASR 048UHSLG.ASR -JCV D3191090A.JCV -SID D2656110A.sid D3157090A.sid D3398080A.sid D3406080A.sid -SQLite D3397080A.db These names WILL not be the same if you are using a mapset that is different than 2014.10. MAKE SURE THAT THE ONLY THING VISIBLE ON THE ROOT OF THE DRIVE IS THE 'Garmin' FOLDER!!!
Flashing Procedure 1) Turn the car on and select the NAV interface. The car must remain on, running or not, during the entire process so plan accordingly. You might need to toggle the start button a few times to reset the timer, or you could just drive around or something. Run or ACC is safe, and you can quickly turn it off to cycle through as long as the doors aren't open!
2) Insert the thumbdrive into the USB jack in the center console. The system will begin verifying the installation files. I have no idea what is happening here, because I've seen this process take as little as 18 seconds or as long as fifteen minutes. The 18 second try was when I accidentally had.unl files for my donor Garmin unit, so it may be that adding proper.unl files to the drive may speed the process up. I'll try this next map update in a few months. If the system displays an error that says that the maps were not successfully installed, try removing and reinserting the drive. Occasionally this happens, but will install fine after plugging the thumbdrive back in.
If you get an error immediately after inserting the drive, double-check that the 'gmapprom.img' is named correctly and that it is in the correct 'Garmin' folder. All updates depend on that particular file, so if it has any mistakes, the process will error out. 3) If all of your files check out, you will be asked if you want to install the new maps. Continue the process to begin the actual installation. The radio will reboot itself to begin the installation. Occasionally, it might lock up at this point. If it doesn't reboot in a minute or so, you will have to pull the radio fuse in the trunk, wait 30 seconds, then reinsert the fuse.
If this happens, you should be able to repeat the process again and it should not lock up again. 4) You may or may not be prompted to manually enter an unlock code. To generate your code, follow these steps: A. Write down the Device ID number displayed on the screen. It should match the 10-digit ID that is in the top of the GarminDevice.xml file previously pulled from the radio, so you might be able to get your unlock code before installing the maps. Open Jetmouse's Garmin Keygen v1.5 application and enter the 10-digit Unit ID in the top field. In the bottom section, choose ' from the 'Select Map Product:' pull-down menu.
In the 'Custom Mapset' window that pops up, enter '2920' in the 'FID (or MapID):' field. Leave all other fields alone and press 'OK'. Click the 'Generate' button in the bottom right and a 25-digit unlock code will be generated. NOTE THAT THE FID IS UNIQUE TO EACH PARTICULAR MAP VERSION. 2920 IS ONLY VALID FOR 2014.10 MAPS. Enter the 25-digit code in the radio and continue the installation. You will only need to generate the code once for each mapset.
Although I cannot confirm this since I can't hook up the unit to a computer (yet) I believe that the system will generate the correct.unl file in the internal memory. 5) When the system boots back up, it will display a progress bar and begin copying the files over from the flash card. There is no numeric indicator of the progress, but the bar will begin filling up. When it reaches 100% after around 45 minutes, it will remain there for a little while. I think that the system is now copying the files from a temporary location into there real location at this time. On my system, it will ALWAYS display an '0x30A0' error at this point.
The window will prompt you to touch the screen to continue, after which it displays a blank nav screen with no icons or buttons. Touch the radio button and then the nav button to make the system redraw the nav screen. After a short loading screen, the Nav system should display as normal. 6) Go back to the 'Settings - Maps' menu, press the three-horizontal-bar button again, and select the 'Info' button to verify that the new maps have been installed. 7) Enjoy your new maps! File Types Here's a quick explination of what all of the files are and why they are necessary: Garmin GarminDevice.xml This file contains information pertaining to your Garmin unit in the RB5 radio.
It is generated by the radio itself and is copied onto the thumbdrive by browsing to the 'Settings - Map' screen, touching the button in the upper-left corner with the three horizontal bars, and selecting 'Update Maps' menu button. Garmin gmap3d.img This file contains the 3D models for the buildings in urban areas.
It is unique to each mapset, so it must be updated along with the appropriate map version or you will loose your 3D buildings. It should be unlocked before installing. Garmin gmapprom.img This is the actual map data. It must be renamed from 'gmapsupp.img' or it will not work. If you want to add or reinstall any other file (other than Custom POIs) this file must be present, as it is the 'key' to prompt the system to update any files present in the Garmin folder.
It should be unlocked before installing. Garmin gmaptz.img This is the Time Zone map. I have not tried it out, but it should cause your radio to automatically update the radio's clock when you drive through time zones.
I'm not sure that it needs to be added, but it is updated for each mapset so it's probably a good idea to add it. It's very small, so adding it should not be an issue. Garmin ASR.ASR and.SRX files are for the voice recognition. They are unique to each mapset so they must be updated with each new map version. If you do not include these files, the voice recognition in the Nav system will not work properly, especially regarding the 'Find Place By Name' function. Additionally, I believe that the Uconnect also uses these files for the rest of the system's voice recognition. With the 2014.10 files, I really feel like my voice recognition for everything else in the system, like making the Player select artists and songs on my iPod is much more accurate than it was before.
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I HIGHLY recommend including these files. Garmin JCV The.JCV file contains the photorealistic and bird's-eye views that precede exit ramps. It is unique to each mapset, and if you do not include it in the map update, you will loose the Junction View feature. I suppose that there are those who would rather not have Junction View, so you can choose to include it or not depending on your preference. Garmin SID The.sid files contain information regarding TrafficTrends, instaSearch, instaAddress and POIs, and FastRouting files. They are updated for each mapset, so it is recommended that they are included in the installation. Garmin SQLite The.db file in the SQLite folder contains TrafficTrends data.
It is updated for each mapset, so it is recommended that it is included in the installation. Adding Custom POIs Adding Custom POIs to the radio can make the Nav system much more useful. There are tons of POIs that you can download, with many types of information. For example, I have imported POIs that warn me when I'm approaching any intersection in the US that have red light or speed cameras, and also ones that warn me when I'm approaching known speed trap locations.
When I am getting close to a place where the police are known to hang out, a small window pops up in the upper-right of my screen that says, 'Known Speed Enforcement Zone' and a voice also says, 'Entering a known speed enforcement zone' in case I'm not looking at the screen. The same thing happens at red light cameras, with a small window and a voice that says, 'Approcaching a red light camera intersection'.
You can add any sound or voice.wave file that you would like to sound for each particular event. You could add an event to fire off when the car gets close to a mall that reminds your spouse to not spend too much money - I'm sure that they'll like that one! The process for adding these files is a little different that it is for normal Garmin units, but once you get the hang of it, it is pretty painless. The nice thing is that the Custom POI's load into the system in seconds, as opposed to the painful process of adding any other file.
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I will edit this post later on when it's not so late that describes the process for importing Cusom POI's. These will show up in the 'Where To - Points of Interest - Extras' folder, so now you know what that button is for! Click to expand.Could you take a look at the files in the engineering menu and let me know if you have any folders named Gracenote and SeriusDB? We haven't found a way to get into the engineering menu with the newer radios.
Using my old RE2 unit as a sacrificial lamb, I was able to get into a filesystem inside the radio! There is a small PCB in the radio that has a 'SDHC' logo on it with two ICs, a SD controller and a 4GB flash memory chip. Sadly, it doesn't have a normal SD card connector - but it had some VERY small test points. Delving DEEPLY into the void-your-warranty waters, I soldered on some wires, rigged up a jig, and plugged it into my PC. Before I tear apart my RB5 radio and see if I can modify any of the Garmin files, I'd like to know if there's more than one flash memory. I was able to find one of my old GarminDevice.xml files from an earlier time, and was able to confirm that every time I've been flashing my radio with new maps, the old files are not deleted.
I think I've only got room for one or two more map upgrades. I'd like to go in and do some housekeeping. Edit: I don't think this is the case now. Based on how much free memory is displayed in my XML file, and knowing now that there is 8GB of internal memory, I now believe the older files are deleted. I'm also going to wait until I get to work where I have some real soldering tools, since my kitchen-table jury-rig is not terribly robust.
Inside the flash memory from the RE2 radio are the following files: SD: infos.bin infou.bin orderi.bin orders.bin orderu.bin -Gracenote Lots of folders (about 2GB worth of gracenote database files) -SeriusDB Chartimages (all of the artwork for the Sirius channels) Fuel Movie Sports Tabuweather I'm getting closer to having my red charger icon, little by little. Edit: I couldn't wait, so I opened up my RB5 and gave it a look. The exact same SD Card pcb is installed in it, too, so there's no way that all of the Nav files could fit on it. I think that that particular card is solely for Sirius and Gracenote files.
I didn't bother doing anything to it, because I don't think it's worth the effort. There is an 8GB SanDisk memory IC on the Garmin card, which is where the GPS functions are likely stored. It has the SD controller built into it, so there's no practical way to talk to it. Barring some hidden engineering menu that we haven't found yet, I don't think that there is any way to get into the Garmin filesystem that doesn't involve extraordinary measures. Could you take a look at the files in the engineering menu and let me know if you have any folders named Gracenote and SeriusDB?
We haven't found a way to get into the engineering menu with the newer radios. Using my old RE2 unit as a sacrificial lamb, I was able to get into a filesystem inside the radio! There is a small PCB in the radio that has a 'SDHC' logo on it with two ICs, a SD controller and a 4GB flash memory chip. Sadly, it doesn't have a normal SD card connector - but it had some VERY small test points. Delving DEEPLY into the void-your-warranty waters, I soldered on some wires, rigged up a jig, and plugged it into my PC. Before I tear apart my RB5 radio and see if I can modify any of the Garmin files, I'd like to know if there's more than one flash memory.
I was able to find one of my old GarminDevice.xml files from an earlier time, and was able to confirm that every time I've been flashing my radio with new maps, the old files are not deleted. I think I've only got room for one or two more map upgrades. I'd like to go in and do some housekeeping. Edit: I don't think this is the case now. Based on how much free memory is displayed in my XML file, and knowing now that there is 8GB of internal memory, I now believe the older files are deleted. I'm also going to wait until I get to work where I have some real soldering tools, since my kitchen-table jury-rig is not terribly robust.
Inside the flash memory from the RE2 radio are the following files: SD: infos.bin infou.bin orderi.bin orders.bin orderu.bin -Gracenote Lots of folders (about 2GB worth of gracenote database files) -SeriusDB Chartimages (all of the artwork for the Sirius channels) Fuel Movie Sports Tabuweather I'm getting closer to having my red charger icon, little by little. Edit: I couldn't wait, so I opened up my RB5 and gave it a look. The exact same SD Card pcb is installed in it, too, so there's no way that all of the Nav files could fit on it. I think that that particular card is solely for Sirius and Gracenote files. I didn't bother doing anything to it, because I don't think it's worth the effort. There is an 8GB SanDisk memory IC on the Garmin card, which is where the GPS functions are likely stored. It has the SD controller built into it, so there's no practical way to talk to it.
Barring some hidden engineering menu that we haven't found yet, I don't think that there is any way to get into the Garmin filesystem that doesn't involve extraordinary measures. Ok, so the Garmin engineering mode doesn't show as much as I thought. Here is the directory structure: Available Volumes O: ( Disk ) 1: ( SD Card ) Greyed out 2: ( DVD ) Greyed out O:/Garmin/ fsimage.ver GarminDevice.xml gmapbmap.img gmapbmap.sum gmapprom.img gmapprom.sum gmaptz.img gmaptz.sum gupdate.gcd GUPDATE.zip imgrsrc.gir Locales.xml test.bin test.sum Diag GarminError.xml ExtData 006-D1221-00.bin ARC.BIN BEE.BIN Fonts 006-D2102-00.bin 006-D2103-00.bin. GPX UserData.gpx Help AmericanEnglish 012SettingsSystem.gml 014SettingsNavigation.gml 016SettingsLanguage.gml. French Spanish JCV D2241030A.sum D3060090A.JCV Keyboards enUS.kbd enES.kbd frFR.kbd Langs esES.glr frFR.glr Logs 20127 gps.bin nav.bin PNX empty Poi poi.gpi RemoteSW 006B073300.GCD Vehicle ChallengerCTP.srf ChryslerLD.srf ChryslerLX.srf GrandCherokeeCTP.srf.
Voice englishamerican.sum EnglishAmerican.vpm englishamericanjack.sum englishamericanjack.vpm. I'm not sure if this helps. This is from a 2011 RB5. Thanks, Grant.